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JULY 2000

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Issue cover YOU'RE THROUGH

They're the words no fighter wants to hear, but sometimes someone has to tell them. STEVE FARHOOD reports on what may be a manager's hardest task


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THE NEXT MOVE: A major problem for fighters, such as Iran Barkley seen here in his heyday against Hearns, is what to do after boxing - Get Big Pic

If you're a potato, it's not a bad thing for your career to end in Worley, Idaho (population 31,076). If you're a heavyweight, you might prefer Vegas or NYC.

Spud or stud?

Jeff Wooden hung up his hand wraps after suffering a third-round KO vs. world-class Oleg Maskaev in February 1999. Wooden was french-fried at the Coeur d'Alene Casino on one of promoter Cedric Kushner's Heavyweight Explosion cards. Unless you're hopelessly hardcore, you've never heard of Wooden. Funny, but a point on the cards here or a point there and he could've been marquee material.

Wooden was more than competitive with the best contenders in his class. In 1996, he tackled undefeated fellow southpaw Chris Byrd. Had Wooden won the 10th round, he would've salvaged a draw. In '97, Wooden dropped a split decision to another undefeated prospect, Michael Grant. And in '98, he lost by majority verdict to top-ranked challenger David Tua.

A point here or a point there . . .

By the time Wooden was blown out by Maskaev, he was a 34-year-old trialhorse with a career mark of 18-8. Manager Arnie Rosenthal considered the immediate past and saw the future clearly. "I wasn't going to allow Woody to become a punching bag," he said. "Maskaev dropped him in the first round and he never got his legs back under him. I could see he didn't have his old reflexes."

Mindful that Wooden, the father of four, had a solid job as a prison guard, Rosenthal approached the fighter and his wife and made the speech that comes sooner or later. "I told him that was it, that was the last one," recalled Rosenthal. "Both of them agreed."

More than a year passed before Rosenthal took "that" call. "It was Woody," Rosenthal said. "He told me he wanted to fight again."

Fighters fight. It's what they do. In most cases, it's all they know how to do. So when a manager tells them "no mas", they usually respond, "no way". And when they do listen, it's only until another fight presents itself.

In May, former junior welterweight champion Saoul Mamby lost an eight-rounder in North Carolina. Mamby is 53 years old. Faded fighters are not only desperate, but often delusional. About a year ago, Mamby asked me to introduce him to WBO President Paco Valcarcel in hopes of landing a Top 10 ranking within that organisation.

Managers have been telling three-division champion Iran Barkley to retire since the mid-i90s. On the East Coast, "The Blade", who is immensely popular, is the poster boy for fighters who hang on too long. Barkley, 40, has lost his last six starts, all at heavyweight. Should he be licensed? Over the course of the last 11/2 years, commissions in Tennessee, Florida, and Mississippi, not to mention Denmark, Finland, and Canada, have said yes. Maybe they fear lawsuits. Maybe there's something wrong with the law.

"Managers were always telling me to stop," Barkley told me in June. "But I wasn't ready to stop. They were wrong; I still had a lot left."

Barkley promised me that he's finally done. Is he fearful of brain damage? Does he understand that his opportunities in the marketplace have been severely reduced? Hardly. "My left eye keeps getting puffy from the [scar] tissue," Barkley explained, "and I don't have the money for the surgery."

"I told Iran to stop fighting in '94 or '95," said Stan Hoffman, who formerly managed Barkley. "He always had the same line: 'What else am I gonna do, steal hubcaps?'"

The case of former amateur star and fringe welterweight contender Skipper Kelp illustrates the difficult decisions faced by both fighter and manager. Rosenthal, who signed Kelp after the fighter's loss in 1994 to Bronco McKart, recalled: "First of all, let me say that out of all the fighters I've ever managed, Skipper is my favourite. He's a bright kid with a great attitude. Anyway, in 1996, Skipper was coming off two strenuous fights. First there was a loss to Raul Marquez, which was 12 rounds at a heavier weight. Afterward, both fighters looked like they had run into trains. Then Skipper got off the floor and dropped Adrian Stone twice in the 10th round to win a decision. Both guys ended up in the hospital after that one.

"The Stone fight put Skipper in line for another shot at the USBA title. He fought Tony Martin and came up flat, losing like 10-2 in rounds. I went to collect his check and somebody ran up to me and said: 'Skipper collapsed in the dressing room.' A doctor came in and ordered an ambulance right away. Skipper was semi-conscious, with his eyes closed. On the way to the hospital, I'm in the front seat, and all I keep hearing is: 'C'mon, Skip, stay with us. Stay with us.' That's a scary sound.

"We get to the hospital and all the tests were negative. But a neurosurgeon, the same doctor who happened to be working the fights that night, said to me: 'I was watching closely, and nothing that took place in the ring should have brought about that kind of reaction. My recommendation is to never let him fight again.' That took me out of the picture right there. I talked to everybody about my decision, from trainers and other managers to my mother, and everybody said I was seeing it right. I said to Skipper: 'It's your life; it's not my decision anymore.'

"After Skip's medical suspension was lifted, he passed a battery of tests and was relicensed. Our discussions became more pronounced, but never antagonistic."

Eighteen months after Kelp's loss to Martin, he fought again, without Rosenthal's involvement. Kelp won a bloody decision over Francisco Mendez, taking "20 or 30 stitches" afterward. He hasn't fought since, but is preparing himself for another comeback. Kelp, 29, is married and the father of four. He is currently teaching boxing at the University of Nevada Las Vegas.

"From my perspective," Kelp said, "I thought I got beat up pretty good in the Martin fight. In the locker-room, I was dehydrated and dejected. It was the biggest fight of my career and I had lost.

"I didn't really collapse. I was exhausted, and that makes a bunch of difference. But I looked like hell, and I could see how a doctor might say I should never fight again. Maybe something was wrong at the time, I don't know. But I can rationalise and say I was dehydrated, I had overtrained.

"I went through all the tests so I could sleep at night. I had to check it out myself. There's been an internal battle, and from i98 until now, I've been thinking a lot. I have kids, and my family needs me. I see other fighters slurring their words, and they can't read a book to their kids. There's no money in the world worth that.

"Not that I expect to be punch-drunk, but I'm willing to take a risk for what I want to attain in boxing. The only way I can explain it, and I know it's a stupid cliché, but it's the warrior inside me. I can't really put it any other way. Something inside me says I can do it, I can win a world championship. My body has stayed young - I can still make 147. I want to give it one honest run."

Kelp hopes to fight soon. His new manager is a Vegas businessman.

"With Skipper, I don't want to be right; I don't want to see somebody get hurt," said Rosenthal. "But I can't do it. Sometimes it's hard to make the call. But it's my call to make. For myself."

Are managers always right? In deciding when a fighter should quit the ring, is there a right and wrong?

If Shelly Finkel, who managed Evander Holyfield for a large portion of the former cruiserweight and heavyweight champion's career, had owned the final word, "The Real Deal" would have retired six years ago.

"I'm a big proponent of not quitting on a fighter after a loss," said Finkel, "but with Evander, riding in an ambulance after the [title-fight] loss to Michael Moorer [in 1994] was the last straw. It was the fourth fight in a row we were going to the hospital. Afterward, Evander said to me: 'If you don't want me to fight again, I don't want you to be my manager.'

"Actually, I had asked Evander to retire after the first fight against Riddick Bowe [in 1992]. MC Hammer told him: 'Don't be crazy, and Evander laughed at me. I said: 'Don't laugh. If you fight, I make money.'

Given Holyfield's wins over Mike Tyson, the first of which allowed him to win the heavyweight title for the third time, how does Finkel, arguably the most accomplished manager in the game, feel about his decision? "Of course I would like to have been there when Evander regained the title," he said, "but I've never looked back and said I made the wrong decision. I hope I have, but some columnists write that Evander is slurring his words. He's taken a lot of shots."

Red light, green light, it doesn't matter. In most cases, fighters are going to continue fighting, whether their managers approve or not. What happens then? Should managers just walk away, their consciences clear? Or should they protect their fighters as best as is possible under the circumstances?

"There's no book that tells you what to do," said Rosenthal. "And when you're in the ambulance with them and they're on a stretcher, it's no longer about money. It's funny. If a trainer takes the attitude of 'I was there at the beginning, I'll be there at the end', he's a good guy. But if a manager says the same thing, he's a pimp."

In considering the ring future of Wooden, Rosenthal does not dismiss continued involvement. "It might become a case of sitting back and watching some meat merchant throwing him to the wolves, putting him in fights he's not ready for, or keeping him protected and looking out for him," Rosenthal said. "I heard Woody was the original opponent for Hasim Rahman's comeback fight [earlier this year, following Rahman's KO loss to Oleg Maskaev]. It was off TV, for $5,000. Woody had been off for a year, and somebody was ready to throw him in with Rahman."

Angelo Dundee agrees with that sentiment. When the Hall of Fame manager and trainer thinks a fighter is finished, he makes his point silently - by refusing to work the phones and secure additional fights. But if the fighter punches on, Dundee tosses a towel over his shoulder and walks the ring steps.

When a 38-year-old Muhammad Ali challenged Larry Holmes in 1980, it was Dundee who surrendered before the start of round 11 - against the wishes of others in the corner. And when Ali insisted on fighting one more time, losing to Trevor Berbick in 1981, Dundee was still the chief second. "I wasn't gonna be there? That's ridiculous," he said. "These guys go through so much in life, it's their God-given right to do what they want. I'll be there to protect them. Who knows them better? If I walk away, there's gonna be more harm than anything else."

Adamantly disagreeing is Hoffman. "If a doctor tells you you shouldn't drive anymore or you'll get brain damage, am I helping by sitting in the car? How are you protecting the fighter? Are you protecting him from the punches? Are you protecting him from getting hit in sparring? To me it's a moral issue . . . You have to live with yourself."

If, 20 years ago, you were told that Sugar Ray Leonard, Thomas Hearns, and Larry Holmes, all of whom made millions, would fight far past their primes, you might not have believed it possible. Well, it was more than possible - it was likely.

Today, Oscar De La Hoya, Naseem Hamed, and Roy Jones are in their primes. Care to lay odds that they'll fight too long? Then again, who is to define "too long"?

Apparently, it's not their managers.


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